May 28, 2018 08:08] <+Shepherd> xis, I think Mouser would make a good op to add for here. he ops in 4 other channels [08:08] <+XisDshiz> Shep, when we are interested in asking people for nominations we will ask. Until then, please stop lobbying. I'm getting bored of it 08:09] <+Shepherd> [08:09] <+Shepherd> no need to be rude
#americapolitics May 28, 2018 SPOR to webguy and vox
RB: 2339 RatBastard(~RatBastar@RatBastard.users.undernet.org) 2339 <RatBastard> Someone's chlorpromazine dosage needs to be raised. A lot. 2357 <RatBastard> ahhh, THAT'S the psycho and his wrecking crew (Fred Norris and his sockpuppets) 2358 <RatBastard> "the wrecking crew" being FredNorris et al.; the psycho being Mr. I Oughta Be On Thorazine, Griego. 2358 <Merlin__> wait 2358 Away: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 2359 <Merlin__> when I call you the term Wrecking Crew I refer to his loyal acolytes that vote rule 8 with him 2359 <RatBastard> ah, I thought you meant FredNorris and the sockpuppet accounts he uses to stack Rule8. 2359 <Merlin__> his relationship to Fred Norris was just recently discovered there's a channel called New York where the miscreants gather to hatch their plans 0000 <Merlin__> Fred Norris is one of them PPG is another and they all share Ops with griego 0000 <RatBastard> it's not multiple people, it's one user with multiple registered Undernet hostmasks and multiple VPN connections. 0000 <RatBastard> fuck me, Griego somehow got ops? 0000 <Merlin__> that's right he has Ops in that channel 0001 <RatBastard> oh, I thought you meant in #AP. 0001 <RatBastard> I was gonna say... 0001 <RatBastard> God Help Us All if that ever happened. 0001 <RatBastard> off to bed now. 0001 <RatBastard> seeya in the daytime. 0002 <Merlin__> right 0006 <Merlin__> , I told you we would get him grav itas was only the first phase 0026 <Merlin__> I want to send this conversation to web guy
IK(with griego floods)
2335 IrishKing_(Elite21382@IrishKing.users.undernet.org) 2335 <IrishKing_> Gravitas got de-opped? 2335 <Merlin__> yep 2335 <IrishKing_> Why? 2336 <Merlin__> tyranny 2337 <IrishKing_> How do you feel about gavitas being de-opped? 2337 <IrishKing_> gravitas 2338 <Merlin__> I helped to engineer it 2338 -Griego-- Mentor adolescente de Obama fue Frank Marshall Davis (un miembro de CPUSA conocido) -. "... A través de Frank Marshall Davis, Obama tenía una relación con alguien admitió que fue identificado públicamente como miembro del Partido Comunista de los EE.UU. (CPUSA) Consta en el expediente que Obama estaba en Hawai desde 1971-1979, donde, en algún momento en el tiempo, desarrolló una estrecha relación, casi como un hijo 2338 -Griego-- Mentor adolescente de Obama fue Frank Marshall Davis (un miembro de CPUSA conocido) -. "... A través de Frank Marshall Davis, Obama tenía una relación con alguien admitió que fue identificado públicamente como miembro del Partido Comunista de los EE.UU. (CPUSA) Consta en el expediente que Obama estaba en Hawai desde 1971-1979, donde, en algún momento en el tiempo, desarrolló una estrecha relación, casi como un hijo 2339 <IrishKing_> was gravitas tight with Griego? 2340 <Merlin__> very 2341 <Merlin__> he protected him 2341 <IrishKing_> ugh 2341 <Merlin__> he never understood the spirit of this Channel at all 2342 <IrishKing_> I thought he had more sense 2342 <Merlin__> he was poisoned by other channels 2342 <Merlin__> that's why he had to go 2343 <IrishKing_> WebGuy must have made the call 2343 <Merlin__> yes he did 2343 <Merlin__> after being petitioned by many people 2344 <IrishKing_> including you 2344 <Merlin__> I would like to think that mine was the most compelling argument since web guy loves me and I helped Place him where he is 2344 <IrishKing_> Will u get your ops back? 2345 <Merlin__> not sure 2345 <IrishKing_> I hope you do 2345 <Merlin__> but getting rid of Gravitas was only the first step 2346 <Merlin__> at the same time Millennial gen was promoted to access 480 2346 <IrishKing_> where do we go from here? 2347 <IrishKing_> thats a very high level 2347 <Merlin__> Break Up The Wrecking Crew and see griego ban 2347 <Merlin__> that step is in process 2348 <IrishKing_> who are the members of the Wrecking Crew? Jeffery and Sheperd are Two 2349 <IrishKing_> they are big Allies of Griego 2349 <IrishKing_> Who else? 2352 <Merlin__> Shepherd is on my side 2353 <Merlin__> for him you have Jeffrey life sucks Caleb El Nino Biff and maybe a few others 2353 <Merlin__> it may come down to a rule 8 voting War so any help would be appreciated 2354 <Merlin__> oh I forgot Juan is his too 0004 <IrishKing_> u forgot mouser 0005 <IrishKing_> you can count on me 0005 <IrishKing_> Biff is Griego 0007 <Merlin__> do you think so? 0007 <Merlin__> find a way to prove it 0007 <Merlin__> Mouser is on our side 0008 <Merlin__> he was instrumental 0008 <IrishKing_> oh? how so? 0009 <Merlin__> now you make me wonder about Biff because once I saw him say something nasty about me and I have never ever spoken to him 0009 <Merlin__> yes Mouser sent emails to web guy 0010 <Merlin__> there are a lot of people in on this 0010 <IrishKing_> Biff is Griego on his Android 0011 <Merlin__> I believe you I believe he is also Zartan 0011 <IrishKing_> bank on it 0011 <IrishKing_> dunno Zartan 0011 <Merlin__> but he denies it all 0012 <Merlin__> we need a way to prove it 0012 <IrishKing_> Life_Sux is the former Brer Bear 0013 <Merlin__> Ragtime also supports this and others 0013 <IrishKing_> Griego is in Clearwater, so is "his buddy"Biff 0014 <Merlin__> yes it makes sense sometimes Rico has to travel 2 Northern Florida by that recruit Naval recruit Training Center and that's where we get sartan 0016 <IrishKing_> Griego never uses profanity, however he's insane and uses his Biff alter ego to swear like a mofo 0017 <Merlin__> , I believe it same thing for Zartan who is also on an Android 0017 <Merlin__> find a way to prove it and you will gain some recognition 0019 <IrishKing_> Griego was banned in #RebelYell and used Biff to msg me in pm to release Griego's ban, He went overboard in telling me what a great guy Griego was 0019 <Merlin__> yes that fits collect logs if you can 0020 <IrishKing_> Biff is absolutely Griego 0022 <Merlin__> I'm going to send this log on to others 0022 <IrishKing_> feel free 0023 <IrishKing_> how does XisdaShiz feel about Griego? 0030 <Merlin__> I think he realizes that Rico is a psycho but he's ambivalent 0031 <Merlin__> he's difficult to gauge 0031 <Merlin__> I would call it laissez-faire 0033 <Merlin__> if you could make amends with Mouser you could join this cabal 0033 <Merlin__> vox populi and Shepard hate each other but this brought them together 0034 <IrishKing_> I'm with you regardless 0035 <Merlin__> ok 0036 <IrishKing_> Mouser can show good faith by removing my ban in #Scripture 0036 <Merlin__> I'll pass it on 0037 <IrishKing_> everyone in #Scripture2 despises Griego with a passion 0037 <Merlin__> . 0039 <IrishKing_> "and his drug addicted slut Mother" :-) 0039 <IrishKing_> heh heh 0040 <IrishKing_> to use Griego's favorite phrase 0041 <Merlin__> well that channel is beyond my knowledge 0042 <Merlin__> I'm no expert but I believe he has classic sociopathic tendencies 0045 <IrishKing_> I used to be friendly with him and I used to counsel him in pm to not get into fist fights with people he knew in RL 0046 <Merlin__> how does he have that problem in Real Life 2? 0046 <IrishKing_> barflys and no account people 0047 <Merlin__> so in other words he's a hand grenade waiting to explode 0047 <Merlin__> how does he come into contact with bar flies 0048 <IrishKing_> he has issues with people he knows in RL 0048 <Merlin__> well that much is clear from his stories alone 0049 <IrishKing_> I'm trying to recall whether these are people he knows from a seedy bar or a soup kitchen 0049 <Merlin__> but to have conflicts with barflies you have to be inside bars I think 0050 <Merlin__> how is it that he hangs around these places 0051 <IrishKing_> in any case he's associating with people who are the underbelly of society 0052 <IrishKing_> no one of any substance 0053 <Merlin__> well he indicates that his profession would force this kind of interaction 0055 <IrishKing_> he has no profession 0057 <Merlin__> will check me on this he says that he has a master's degree in languages and he's a linguist 0057 <IrishKing_> just the occasional gig he can get providing spanish to english translation 0057 <Merlin__> is this not true? 0058 <Merlin__> he claims five languages 0058 <IrishKing_> cough 0058 <Merlin__> he says he just bought a house and that it works from home 0058 <Merlin__> he claims World travel in many countries 0059 <IrishKing_> he's a mentally ill loser who was involved with Scientology 0100 <Merlin__> wait he says he hates Scientology 0100 <Merlin__> and he claims to be a Catholic 0101 <IrishKing_> I think they severed ties with him because he's unbalanced 0101 <Merlin__> h.mm 0101 <IrishKing_> thats why he hates them 0102 <IrishKing_> he's been in deep with them in the past 0103 <Merlin__> as I understand it they want to confiscate your money to be in their Club 0103 <IrishKing_> he knows an awful lot about them and many people in it 0104 <IrishKing_> normal people avoid them 0104 <Merlin__> well this would make everything that he has said about himself a lie 0104 <Merlin__> he says his parents were murdered when he was 10 0105 <IrishKing_> he's an ex Scientologist 0105 <Merlin__> so you're saying he abandoned his Catholicism 0106 <IrishKing_> Merlin, He stole that story from a newspaper headline of 30 years ago 0106 <Merlin__> whaaaaat 0107 <IrishKing_> merlin,no he quit scientology 0107 <Merlin__> you mean about his parents being murdered? 0107 <IrishKing_> right 0108 <Merlin__> he stole that story 0108 <IrishKing_> I recall the actual event 0108 <Merlin__> explain 0109 <IrishKing_> It was in the newspapers. 0109 <Merlin__> people get murdered all the time why this one 0112 <IrishKing_> A Greek couple went sailing one afternoon and the husband inadvertantly sailed into Turkish waters... The Turkish coast guard came upon them and machine gunned the couple 0113 <Merlin__> , so this was overseas 0113 <IrishKing_> It was an egregious incident 0114 <IrishKing_> The Turks committed cold blooded murder 0114 <Merlin__> and he stole that story 0114 <Merlin__> how would you know this 0115 <IrishKing_> 30-35 years later along comes Griego claiming the murdered Greek couple were his parents 0117 <IrishKing_> Merlin. I have a photographic memory 0118 <Merlin__> but how would you even come up on this 0119 <IrishKing_> I attended the Mensa Annual Gathering in 1987 and won their Trivial Pursuit tournament 0120 <Merlin__> and 0120 <IrishKing_> I never forget stuff 0120 <Merlin__> but how would you even come up on this 0122 <IrishKing_> Because When Griego told me how his parents died I recalled reading about the actual incident 0122 <IrishKing_> strange, but true 0122 <Merlin__> did you challenge him on that 0122 <IrishKing_> no 0123 <Merlin__> and now he hates you 0123 <IrishKing_> yeah 0123 <Merlin__> how did that come about 0124 <IrishKing_> because he's so hard to take I put him on ignore 0125 <IrishKing_> all he does is fight with other chatters and insult them 0126 <Merlin__> well that is certainly true 0126 <IrishKing_> his fighting is too vicious for me to watch 0127 <Merlin__> okay I'm shut down now I need to sleep thanks for the chat 0134 <IrishKing_> enjoyed it 0134 <IrishKing_> Know what I'm gonna do? 0136 <IrishKing_> I'm gonna research the sailboat incident and get the names and the date it happened 0137 <IrishKing_> It was world wide news when it happened
[08:24] <+CuLtOfOne> XisDshiz what did you guys do? 08:25] <+CuLtOfOne> you supposed leaders of the channel... [08:25] <+XisDshiz> I did nothing. literally [08:25] <+XisDshiz> I was not consulted, I was informed after the fact of all actions [08:25] <+CuLtOfOne> how does shit happen then.. a unicorn sprouts out of webguys ass and you follow the rainbow? [08:25] <+XisDshiz> he is the channel owner. he controls things, not me> direct your anger at him [08:26] <+CuLtOfOne> Im not angry [08:26] <+CuLtOfOne> more like dissapointed [08:26] <+XisDshiz> then direct your commentary at him
* 08:28] <+XisDshiz> so me doing nothing is the problem then? [08:28] <+XisDshiz> somehow my not acting is crooked [08:28] <+XisDshiz> its a symptom of not owning the channel [08:28] <+XisDshiz> take it up with the one who does [08:29] <+independence> why could grav not be forgiven? [08:29] <+independence> the case is a strange one [08:29] <+XisDshiz> because he didnt bother to allow it to happen?
[08:29] <+Comrade58> it was a case of Reckless tyranny [08:29] <+XisDshiz> in the scope of one day he quit the channel [08:29] <+XisDshiz> and of course he blamed me [08:29] <+XisDshiz> sorry, not accepting this blame [08:29] <+CuLtOfOne> well he was reduced to somebody that could no longer use his Op powers [08:30] <+XisDshiz> wrong> it was a temporary change [08:30] <+independence> he is kind of emotional
[08:30] <+CuLtOfOne> XisD how long before you are level one because somebody pisses you off [08:30] <+XisDshiz> I dont care [08:30] <+CuLtOfOne> thats a good attitude [08:30] <+XisDshiz> frankely, I've about had it with the bullshit drama queens [08:30] <+XisDshiz> I want to talk politics [08:30] <+CuLtOfOne> I can see it in your future
[08:31] <+Shepherd> coo, calm down - xis and his bots are needed - and he is still 499 [08:31] <+Shepherd> that wont change [08:31] <+Shepherd> Grav is gone and things are way beter [08:32] <+Shepherd> lets just get to politics - n\ot whining
[08:32] <+XisDshiz> I disagree, I liked gravitas [08:32] <+XisDshiz> and he was treated poorly, but not by me [08:32] <+Shepherd> yes yOU did xis but some others didnt [08:32] <+XisDshiz> he was never even contacted [08:32] <+Shepherd> Grav abused ops badly - * Added CuLtOfOne!*@* to ignore list - [08:32] <+XisDshiz> no, he didnt [08:32] <+XisDshiz> he gave warnings, and people persiosted [08:33] <+independence> it is impolite to go straight to a judge without trying to first settle out of court [08:33] <+XisDshiz> rule6, dont argue with ops [08:33] <+DisGuy> I guess channel drama is th enew politics? [08:33] <+Shepherd> Grav took away my rule8 vote without reason - he continually banned me without reason - he constantly insulted me and banned me if I responded
[08:33] <+XisDshiz> yeah, well this is the reason I am here less and less [08:33] <+Shepherd> Grav abused rule6
* YES - THAT was the problem! Xis allowed Gravitas to abuse ops and did nothing!
Griego is a mentally ill pathological liar and types 900 wpm. (I never exaggerate.) I can just ignore him, but he churns the channel up with lies. If it was up to me, I would permban Griego after finding out all I did on May 27th. I seek to correct LIES with TRUTH. That has been my ministry for years.
Some in ap are mad Grav's gone and SPOR is there. Some are confused.
Mazy Grace and rolosax
I wanted to know why the unjust attacks on poor Mazy Grace. Spoke to her and have the jist of the story.
It involves ik hacking her facebook and caleb feeding Griego who pm'd mazy crap about rolosax. I guess she posted his pm in channel and ppl went ballistic. Griego attacked mazy for posting what he said. Mazy doesnt know IRC and had no idea what doxing is. People were calling rolosax queer, she just wanted to help by saying he has a girlfriend.
So then I had to pm with rolosax. He was a gentleman. Whew. I believe he took me seriously. Griego has collected a squad of assassins. Truly, he needs to be banned. Mouser has logs. Vox only peeks in and leaves, he's never around long. I've pm'd with him and Im amazed how much he knows and agrees with me on. We were enemies for years. LOL!
The Gravitas problem began the day he was opt. He is power crazed. (xis refuses to see it but others see it) RAS deopt him in #Politics for causing strife. He just got worse and worse. He had 'pets' who he protected - even stopping rule8 from kicking them out.